Mark Lee and I talk to Rob Cameron, Global Head of Public Affairs and ESG Engagement at Nestlé, about his first ever Davos World Economic Forum, Nestlé's comprehensive approach to materiality and double-materiality, the impacts of the war in Ukraine, going regenerative and finding reasons for optimism.

Mark Lee & I discuss the role of business including in the War in Ukraine, Davos, gun violence in the USA and the long history of corporate responsibility in the UK. Chris Coulter then interviews Cristiano Oliveira, the Sustainability Executive Manager at Suzano, about the Brazilian company’s unique approach to sustainability.